Archived Allow Captain or HoS to unilaterally declare Code Red

Discussion in 'Code Suggestions' started by Flatoftheblade, Apr 17, 2015.

  1. In circumstances where Code Red is warranted, it is both rather difficult, and a waste of time better spent elsewhere, to try to coordinate two heads swiping at the same time. Consequently, you almost never see it being officially declared even during revolutions, confirmed nuke ops, etc.

    Also, since an official declaration isn't even a requirement to use "code red situation" as a justification for use of force purposes, the only practical benefit of the declaration is to give grey tiders a heads up that their actions will have consequences in light of the circumstances on the station. There is no reason to overcomplicate the process to make the declaration.

    This isn't realistically abusable when the Captain and HoS already have access to the armory, etc.
  2. Mabblies

    Mabblies Well-Known Member

    Would the other heads still have the ability to jointly call Code Red?
  3. Under my suggestion, yes. I wouldn't change anything as far as the other heads are concerned.
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  4. Mabblies

    Mabblies Well-Known Member


    I would love for this suggestion to be added.
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  5. Snow5445

    Snow5445 Guest

    I agree because my god i am tired of assitants being jackasses while nuke ops are on board
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  6. PistolPete

    PistolPete ForumGuard Staff Member

    How do you address the idea that a head may abuse this to be able to early call a shuttle when it's unnecessary or extremely unpopular?

    It wouldn't give the crew a large amount of time to react to be able to recall. It basically allows a single player to more easily dictate the length of a round.
  7. Mabblies

    Mabblies Well-Known Member

    Well, I feel like we have rules and admins for a reason... Captain and HoS are already the two jobs with the most responsibility anyways.
  8. Raptorblaze

    Raptorblaze Head Coder Staff Member

    I'm pretty sure both of those jobs can actually already do that just by making a second head ID card. I say this because I've seen Flavo do it at least once.

    Edit: I'm asking flavo to confirm the specifics, but I have seen it done.
  9. Felix Feufer

    Felix Feufer LS13 Admin

    Can't quote, chrome not installed on this.

    Raptor, it's impossible to code red even if you have two ID's I believe, you need to use two ID's on two different authorizations, I guess TECHNICALLY you MIGHT be able to run between the bridge's auth, and the captain's office's auth, however you'd need to dismantle a table to be able to get by in time.

    It'd be SO much easier if you could just do it with one ID
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  10. Flavo

    Flavo Well-Known Member

    Handteleporter magic. Using the same ID teleport from captains office to bridge to solo declare.
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  11. Felix Feufer

    Felix Feufer LS13 Admin

    Again, can't quote, but that's ridiculous.

    Just add a new access to the captain and HoS I.D. and if the card has that access it can solo code red.
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  12. Raptorblaze

    Raptorblaze Head Coder Staff Member

    That explains it, at the time I just laughed but i was curious how you did it :p In any case, I'm fine with the idea.
  13. PistolPete

    PistolPete ForumGuard Staff Member

    Yeah, but I still don't see a good necessity other than "It's easier."

    Space Law use of force already covers using force in deadly situations.

    The side effect of code red is 6 minute shuttle arrivals.
  14. Felix Feufer

    Felix Feufer LS13 Admin

    It gets griffons to understand that a code red is in effect and not to slip officers who are trying to protect them from people with SMG's trying to incinerate them?
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  15. PistolPete

    PistolPete ForumGuard Staff Member

    You're still going to have that no matter what. That only applies to a handful of situations.

    What justification do you have to give a single player the ability for a 6 minute shuttle? That's what it boils down to.
  16. Mindtrixx

    Mindtrixx Well-Known Member

    Not at all, they are asking for a RP way of declaring a secure state station wide. The 6minute shuttle timer is completely secondary.

    Simple solution: Separate code Red and the shorter shuttle timer. Code Red will be added to the console and the ID swipe will become some sort of "GET THE SHUTTLE HERE NOW CENTCOMM" alert.

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  17. PistolPete

    PistolPete ForumGuard Staff Member

    That's an acceptable solution, in my eyes.

    I'd go with a code yellow - which is current code red, and code red which is prep for station evac.
  18. Felix Feufer

    Felix Feufer LS13 Admin

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